Worst case scenario, I’ll go regenerate the image, though it’ll take me a bit to reconstitute it so that it has the same styling, etc. as the rest.

;) I’m curious to see the correct table.

I read it so enthralledly that I noticed that the graph for platforms is a repeat of the graph for environments.

Thank you for gathering the data.

I’m an emacs lover, so I’m reasonably happy with how things are, but we perhaps need to distinguish between ‘what we would like to use ourselves’, and ‘what will be accessible to the converts we wish to make’.

This is a good question, but it’s important that we don’t fall into the trap of designing ‘tools for other people to use’. Which was arguably the whole problem with Java.

I imagine that if the great majority of current clojure-lovers, who are mostly also emacs-lovers, tried to design plug-ins and environments solely to improve accessibility, then we’d end up with unusable plug-ins and ghastly environments!

On the other hand, you’re evidence that there are current clojure people who’d like to use a non-emacs environment. If enough people like you scratch their own itch, we may end up with the best of both worlds. A huge community would be a wonderful thing.

I can set up clojure-emacs-slime-maven in about 30 seconds on a clean linux install, but I have had little success showing my windows friends how to do it. Even clojure-maven-plugin was broken on windows last I looked, and the install procedures are too complex in windows. Also, everything quickly collapses under pressure of versioning issues.

A good fast compromise would be to streamline the Windows/Emacs/Clojure install procedure. That might give us at least some accessibility to the Windows world. But it requires clojure enthusiasts who actually *use* windows, not just tolerate it. I only know one, and despite his enthusiasm for learning emacs, because he’s seen how useful it is to me, he writes his code in notepad and runs it from the command line because otherwise he spends all his time watching everything break.

Clojure newbie (using it for my studies),
Ryan =)